Conversation With Angels
Student:
There is one thing that bothers me about this whole thing. I thought we are not this mind or this body, and that we are only the Purusha (or Atman or God or Source...) Then why do we have to claim that we are alcoholics and continue to claim that we are for the rest of our lives even after we have given our lives over to God? This I wrestle with!
Angel #1:
If you can acheive constant contact with your Higher Self, when you maintain unfaltering rememberence of who you really are and who everyone else really is... basically when you ascend to a permanent state of Enlightenment and longer participate in the human experience, well then I guess you would no longer need to acknowlege your self-willed thinking by identifying it as alcoholic.
New expansion every day with the support of a recovery fellowship sounds much more fun to me though. If I wanted to stay in constant samadhi, I would not have taken a body! I would have stayed ether. I came here to earth for the joy of this journey. And I have exactly that every time I surrender.
Angel #2:
There is no wrestling when you turn it over. You don't have to do anything. But if you want to move toward Realization then the Steps are the best thing for someone with an addictive mind. They help us clear the kleshas. The kleshas have us forget that we are not our body and mind. This is all a process. If you can get to Enlightenment and stay in one Step more power to you. You would know because there would be no struggle and peace - just love. Most of us can't go straight to Step 12. That's why there are 12 to be done in order.
Angel #3:
What they said! And also, consider that you could change your attitude about being an alcoholic. Alcoholic is just the word that society has given us for our spiritual malady. But it's an important word! That I use to remind myself where my weakness is (alcohol and drugs). I'm proud to be a recovering alcoholic and addict - it means I survived inner and outer Hell so intense many in this world can't understand - except those in the Program with me. We are now adventuring back into the Light! With the Steps of course. Alcoholics are just the people who missed God the most.
When I say "Hi, I'm an alcoholic" I claim my weaknesses and my strengths. I claim myself for who I really am! A part of something Bigger than my ego. Once I claim and ACCEPT all of who I am (plus work the Steps!), then real freedom comes! I believe the Steps is the Purusha's way of calling us forward. Recovery is the biggest adventure anybody can take - like Lord of the Rings plus Harry Potter times TEN!
There is one thing that bothers me about this whole thing. I thought we are not this mind or this body, and that we are only the Purusha (or Atman or God or Source...) Then why do we have to claim that we are alcoholics and continue to claim that we are for the rest of our lives even after we have given our lives over to God? This I wrestle with!
Angel #1:
If you can acheive constant contact with your Higher Self, when you maintain unfaltering rememberence of who you really are and who everyone else really is... basically when you ascend to a permanent state of Enlightenment and longer participate in the human experience, well then I guess you would no longer need to acknowlege your self-willed thinking by identifying it as alcoholic.
New expansion every day with the support of a recovery fellowship sounds much more fun to me though. If I wanted to stay in constant samadhi, I would not have taken a body! I would have stayed ether. I came here to earth for the joy of this journey. And I have exactly that every time I surrender.
Angel #2:
There is no wrestling when you turn it over. You don't have to do anything. But if you want to move toward Realization then the Steps are the best thing for someone with an addictive mind. They help us clear the kleshas. The kleshas have us forget that we are not our body and mind. This is all a process. If you can get to Enlightenment and stay in one Step more power to you. You would know because there would be no struggle and peace - just love. Most of us can't go straight to Step 12. That's why there are 12 to be done in order.
Angel #3:
What they said! And also, consider that you could change your attitude about being an alcoholic. Alcoholic is just the word that society has given us for our spiritual malady. But it's an important word! That I use to remind myself where my weakness is (alcohol and drugs). I'm proud to be a recovering alcoholic and addict - it means I survived inner and outer Hell so intense many in this world can't understand - except those in the Program with me. We are now adventuring back into the Light! With the Steps of course. Alcoholics are just the people who missed God the most.
When I say "Hi, I'm an alcoholic" I claim my weaknesses and my strengths. I claim myself for who I really am! A part of something Bigger than my ego. Once I claim and ACCEPT all of who I am (plus work the Steps!), then real freedom comes! I believe the Steps is the Purusha's way of calling us forward. Recovery is the biggest adventure anybody can take - like Lord of the Rings plus Harry Potter times TEN!
